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Today I am thinking about metaphors, how they help and how they constrict.

What are your metaphors for vidding or vid watching? Do you have any? Do you frame it in terms of other creative crafts and endeavours--writing, cooking, knitting, dancing, choreographing, composing, playing music, listening to music, painting, sculpting, etc.--or other activities--sports, finances, programming, cleaning, exercises, etc.--or something else? How does the rest of your life shape the way you conceive of vidding or watching vids?

How does vidding shape the way you perceive other parts of your life? Do you end up using skills and techniques you've learned from vidding or analyzing vids to improve or better understand other activities?

Date: 2010-04-04 03:15 pm (UTC)
ravenholdt: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ravenholdt
What an excellent question! :D

You really made me have to think about how I explain my obsession to others. (Usually garnering those knowing looks that say the person I'm speaking to has NO idea what vidding is, or could be)

Coming from a formal m.theory background, I always think in terms of plotting....movements and emotional swell and dip. So for me, it is much like constructing a musical composition. I try to ensure that every facet of the vid is a reflection of my musical choice.
That means I pay very close attention to descant, silvery notes, the "industrial" effects often present in my music genre choices (primarily faster, guitar driven pieces or very natural piano/voice duets with bkup singers)

Since Ive started vidding, its as thought he entire world of television has changed for me. I notice small changes in body posture and expression much faster than I did before, I think. My attunement to microexpression and what I call "unintended communication" is much stronger. My grasp of POSSIBILITY in a scene has grown, as well.
I find myself taking note of the technical behind the camera work when watching movies, and muttering to myself about how one transition or another was effected, or whether they wouldnt have been better off doing This or That. lol Watchign movies in a theatre is an entirely new experience now.

I pay attention more, when people watching....so many changes.
I dont think I could remove my vidding sense from my out of house activities now, if I tried.
Garbled, but heartfelt, hopefully this makes sense to someone out there. :D

Thanks for givign me the opportunity to rant on a pet subject. ;)

Date: 2010-04-04 06:38 pm (UTC)
thingswithwings: dear teevee: I want to crawl inside you (a dude crawls inside a tv) (Default)
From: [personal profile] thingswithwings
I notice small changes in body posture and expression much faster than I did before, I think. My attunement to microexpression and what I call "unintended communication" is much stronger.

oh, this! totally. and the thing about camera work, too - I am now always ranting about the absence of two-shots on tv and lazy fight-scene editing and stuff. :)

Date: 2010-04-04 06:25 pm (UTC)
laurashapiro: Final Cut Pro logo (vidding)
From: [personal profile] laurashapiro
Vidding = playing god.

I am not kidding even a little bit.

Yessss

Date: 2010-04-04 06:47 pm (UTC)
ravenholdt: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ravenholdt
Subject says it all.

Date: 2010-04-04 07:23 pm (UTC)
ravenholdt: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ravenholdt
Oh you let them have that? lol
I find it confuses them when I require someone to do my bidding. ;)

Date: 2010-04-04 08:10 pm (UTC)
laurashapiro: text only: still not in your fandom (still not in your fandom)
From: [personal profile] laurashapiro
Yes, it can be like that for all of us. Though I suspect your remark has special resonance for SPN fans. (:

Date: 2010-04-04 08:18 pm (UTC)
laurashapiro: a woman sits at a kitchen table reading a book, cup of tea in hand. Table has a sliced apple and teapot. A cat looks on. (Default)
From: [personal profile] laurashapiro
Hee! Well, trust me: you can bend it to Your will. It can take time and practice, but you can make your source sit up and bark like a dog if you want to.

Date: 2010-04-04 08:25 pm (UTC)
ravenholdt: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ravenholdt
haha! :D

Date: 2010-04-04 06:35 pm (UTC)
thingswithwings: dear teevee: I want to crawl inside you (a dude crawls inside a tv) (Default)
From: [personal profile] thingswithwings
This goes back to the conversation post the other day - for me, the vidding process is very close to the nonfiction essay-writing process, and so I tend to think of vids in the same terms: thesis statements, building progression, cumulative, synthesis-y conclusions. Grouping evidence by theme. This sounds cold, maybe, especially if you think of essay writing as cold, but for me it's a warm, warm, HOT process, sometimes linear (teleological) and sometimes circular, but always a little furious and orgasmic at the end. :) I'm not sure many of my vids are yet good enough to really bear this process out, but certainly all of my vids have thesis statements at the beginning, little microcosmic kernels that tell you what the whole vid is about. It's the conclusions I'm working on.

And, oh my goodness, has vidding EVER changed my life. I have no idea what even happened in last year's Harry Potter movie, I was so busy vidding it in my head as I watched it, and making narratives that weren't in it before. I used to do that with fic-writing, of course, but vidder-goggles mean that now I'm playing with both the characters/plot (fic-writer) and the pretty pretty images (vidder) at the same time.

Also, I never really got music until I started vidding.

LOL

Date: 2010-04-04 06:49 pm (UTC)
ravenholdt: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ravenholdt
"I have no idea what even happened in last year's Harry Potter movie, I was so busy vidding it in my head as I watched it, and making narratives that weren't in it before."

I had the same problem with Tim Burton's Alice. Watched it 2x....paid the man and missed most of the movie because I was micro-focusing.

Re: LOL

Date: 2010-04-04 07:10 pm (UTC)
thingswithwings: dear teevee: I want to crawl inside you (a dude crawls inside a tv) (Default)
From: [personal profile] thingswithwings
this is the thing! it's all just stock footage to me now. :)

Re: LOL

Date: 2010-04-04 07:28 pm (UTC)
ravenholdt: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ravenholdt
Yes, I can tell you my outing friends are fairly confused when they ask me what I thought of a movie and I come back with a verbal index of my favorite scene, transitions and effects.
lol
I dont think they quite know how to respond.
Friend: "Oh, did you SEE that? That was an awesome fight scene!"

Me: "Well, it had potential, but when they switched to the long shot from the reaction shots, it lost a lot of oomph. Who cares what those side characters (who never had a line and will probably die in the next 5 seconds) can see or not? That whole shot was unimportant, and distracting. And did you see how the light blur off the sword was going in the wrong direction for the sun shot directly beforehand?"

Friend:" Um....*sigh*

rofl

Re: LOL

Date: 2010-04-04 07:33 pm (UTC)
ravenholdt: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ravenholdt
But heres the thing about that "curse" , if you will.
Theres so much MORE to see! *grin*

And we are basically training our brains to see mini-moments that usually are only studied by pathologists, criminologists and human interaction specialists.
With the added bonus of really being able to see and agree or disagree (from a more objective standpoint) with a director's/production company's use of arsenal to tell a story.

Im pretty sure that some of the movies I remember loving wouldnt live up to the "vidder's eye" now. *shrug* Will I stop loving those movies? Maybe.
lol
But I'll still LIKE them enough to make watching them a treat, even if I torture anyone in earshot about trivial minutae.

Nice payoff.

Re: LOL

Date: 2010-04-04 08:10 pm (UTC)
laurashapiro: text only: there's nothing wrong with your vid, you're just freaking out (vidding: freaking out)
From: [personal profile] laurashapiro
I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE?!?! \o/

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